Ms. P if I laugh today:
What if he was on a special diet? :lol

I happened to see Mr. ES on TV in JA giving his Christmas message. Life has taken its toll on him no doubt and he is not a man in his 40s or 50s. So we have to be very reasonable now. Does anyone here remember what the past French President looked like just before he stepped down only to die very soon thereafter. President Francois Mitterrand! Plus Eddie still having kids.

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YG you said, "Also, students should not just get credit for Alevels in North America. One ALevel subject regardless of the grade is the equivalent of a complete Bachelors Degree in North America. Two Alevels is a double degree. These over rated graduates of the North America should now think along the same lines so that they understand, since students in other places have higher requirements for pre-university study than it means they do not have the same standing as those students. The reason these NA students stay longer in university is purely economics-nothing to do with academics. It is about time somebody straighten them out."


Boss I have to disagree with you. Again this whole thing is best interpreted as different systems and different requirements.

After you leave sixth form and go to UWI you go to get a first degree. The first degree is usually called a Bachelors. To study law in the commonwealth you leave after A'Level and get an LLB. If you go to study something else, you still get a BA, BSc, etc.,

In the American system your undergrad (going full time) usually takes 4 years. In Jamaica this is reduced to three years because the two years spent in 6th Form is the equivalent of the first year of undergrad.

So for example I did A' Level French, Spanish, English Lit and GP. You get no credit for GP. But you get all your credits for your A'Level subjects. This A'Level is known NOWHERE as the equivalent of an undergrad not even in the UK.

So where Americans will spend four years at the undergrad level, the commonwealth will spend three. When someone comes to the USA from a more advanced system, whether it be the German system, the French system or the British system, they get the credits and spend less time not having to do a full four years. So they 'even out'.

To practice law in the USA you need to get an advanced degree. So you have to go back and do what is called here a JD. It takes another three years (full time). In the USA these schools are called professional schools. You go to get an MBA, JD, etc.,

Whether or not we like it the American JD is just what it is. And the LLB is just what it is. The only issue is when people who studied here go back home and want to be called Dr. as the article suggests. Why on God's earth would a lawyer want to be called Dr. is beyond me. After all you can be Dr. of anything. However, it takes something else to be an Esquire. LOL ok ok I am :hat

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The 2 years spent in 6th Form getting the A'Levels equal what they call here in the USA, the AA or Associates Degree which is BS (not Bachelors of Science of course).

((Ok seriously, not everyone can go to UWI. UWI does not have the capacity. And our system start weeding you out from before high school with common entrance. Here this is not the case. Our region has limited very limited resources. So we send kids who not doing well to Trade school, or keep them going till grade 9 let them do auto mechanics, wood work, electrical installation, Technical drawing etc., and then see if they pass grade 9 Achievement Test or some other name (mi brain a gather water). now they have converted CAST and there is another university in Mandeville run by the Seventh Day Adventists. So yes different sitautaions, requirements, systems, etc.))

In the end only Medical Doctors (vets, dentists, podiatrists, etc.,) and people with their PhDs should be called Dr.

Lawyers need to stick with the title of Esquire. After all it's still a noble profession and is still looked up to. Yes I know about the many crooks but lawyers are a centerpiece of the democratic system as we know it. We should put together a MTU response to that article, don't you think?

And after law school here you are not just called to the BAR. There is a BAR exam. So there is a big difference. What it is though we have to ask :hat

Ok enough of this. I am probably :smokin myself.
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