Ann J, I dont know why I am under the impression that Oprah did not get an education for she dropped out of college. Did she? Self esteem alone is certainly not working for us. It takes other things to enable and materialise self esteem no matter what else we claim. Did you consider that it is self esteem that really forces our people to find something to keep them feeling good about themselves. I can tell you that young man I talked about is a prime example. When talking to him it came tome, this type of behaviour as practiced by that employer is what makes our youth find more dignity in selling drugs and pimping ours and their daughters. What do you think happen to someones; dignity when they are treated like dirt?

I tend to see Yardys point. Rich D, looking sharp, like beauty is according to the eye of the beholder. I have such a hard time with my children. We have dress wars pretty often. I even have one who simply does not like to use lotion or hair products for he genuinely itches from using them no matter which one I provide him. He is the darkest skinned in the house and always looks white -the kind you get from having dry skin. I have seen this poor lad itch in the bath tub until he lost it and strike his sister and he is known to be rather docile. All I heard was slap, slap, stupid girl, stupid girl, slap slap until I ran in there.