Thanks Yardie. Thanks Sis P. I don't do the pork thing and as I said, beef was oh so rare (with the exception of the patty - which was not really often either). So, I am already on the road, but I am beginning to be turned off the chicken here and will have to start buying the organic ones - more expensive, but I am really really sick of this horrid way the others are fed.

Sis Dine, glad I could put a laugh in your day.

PC yu funny fi true - mine is sexier??????:lol

Yardie, I must tell you I had the "pleasure" of doing a few chickens in, via the method you described. Seemed like nothing back then. In fact, my brother and I really took it for a big joke. don't know that I could do that now though.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!!! I am heading home for the rest of the year - yes all 12 hours left of it!!!!! Lata