Thanks Ann J. You know I have become so dependent on the resources at this web site that it is not even funny.

Miss Ann, without saying too much although I talked to the guy and he has given full permission to talk about his plight:
Unlike most of our young men, this guy is a responsible dad. He took up his two children from Jamaica the first chance he got. he had actually left Jamaica before the second one was born. His mom and dad filled in for him physically and he did things financially ( I talked to grandpa and another acquaintance I know long ago)

Long and short of it is: he spanked the little boy once and he went to school and told teachers. They callled Children's Aid and you know what was next. However, they ended up not finding cause to take the children mainly because the scar on the little boy's leg was not a fresh scar ( confirmed by doctor). He explained the boy came up with a rash elsewhere and a stubborn scar on his leg. He said the teachers would constantly prompt the children to complain often times giving them bribes such as pizza and other niceties when they responded that dad was not beating them. they brought pressure to bear, never breaking the daughter but on an average of once per year they would get through to the son. So four times they checked him out thoroughly and was never able to substantiate any charge against him. ( He read the affidavit to me)

He has a system where they MUST do all home work and all correction to any school work and leave it on a certain table so he can go over it when he gets home. That has been working fine, until the other day the boy came home with an attitude telling them they are lucky he did this that and the other. ( basically that they are lucky he did of the school work at all) He had gotten poor marks on part of an assignment/test. The son, had been boasting that he can get his dad in jail anytime he wants. So dad spanked him this time ( can't remember if it is on his buttocks or in his palm) Boy cried and rubbed his eyes which were already sore from walking home from school ( against dad's orders). Not too sure if it was even the next day but when nobody at school paid him any mind he went asking for ice to put on his eyes THEN he got their attention. They called Children service and the police, took the children to emergency- all the crap you know they do. He read the emergenmcy doctor's report to me. there is "broken blood vessel to the eye ( all this means is that the eye is sore) but injury not consistent with child's claim". The boy claim dad hit him in the eye. Still the man was put in jail and children's services apprehend the children. Plain and simple the man is catching hell from them and he does not have the means or strength to handle them. He feels it is an indignity for them to take his children.

I also talked to the daughter's mother and she assures me that she is comfortable with the care of her daughter and that she has been in constant contact with her child and talk to her often whether the dad is home or not. I was not able to talk to the boy's mother but his maternal great grand ma says he has been more than a handful and she does not think the dad is abusing him.

The dad, was married and he and his wife are best of friends though separated. He is close to his children by her ( only one biological the other who adores him is not his biological child). I also talked to her-the wife.

I am convinced, Children's Services is mistaken this time and is just frantically going overboard because of what happened with the child whose step mother beat him to death.

It seems to me that CA does not know their limit either. There has not been a court date let alone a Court Order but they are demanding the man hands over his children's Birth Certificae and Health care card etc. he swers to God they are going to have to put him in jail and even then he will not give it to them he says.